OK, TODAY I got these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OYJWBO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They were on sale for $15 and change and I liked they came in black and were a little fancier than the gray isotoner I have reviewed here. FYI, similar re fit, sizing and style, HOWEVER, THIS CLASSIC TERRY CLOG has more support than this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OYJWBO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I tried on one of the old classics I had compared to the fancier one with satin and the old one had more support than the new black with satin one I just got. Oh and FYI, keep expectations low. I get these for colder months and NEVER expect them to last more than three months, but worth it esp when on sale. __________________________________________________ EDIT: Today is April 11, 2020 and another pair just arrived in the mail. As you can see from the date of my original review, this isn't my first pair. I have literally ordered these about 8 times now. I always have two pair on hand. As one starts to really flatten out, I get another to keep as just inside slippers, the other, outside (as in to take the dog yards from my door, get mail). IF I COULD HAVE ONE CHANGE, it would be that the INNER, supposedly supportive, part would stay firm longer than days. LITERALLY, if you just wear these for a few hours, after days, not weeks, you will notice them FLATTEN out quite a bit. BUT still best I have found, so keep getting them. ________________________ EDIT: Just started wearing when the weather turned cold, so about three months now and just inside and just feet to a patch of grass to take dog out. I ALWAYS wear with socks since I only wear them in the cold months, so am just washing for the first time. Washed on cold, delicate and in a delicates bag and yet the sole is coming apart. I did tumble them on just AIR dry (BUT IN THE DELICATES BAG), maybe that did it. Also before I even washed them, the heels were wearing down, so the non-skid was wearing off there. BUT they tend to get me through the cooler/cold months before I have to replace them, which is better than most slippers you wear a lot in winter.. I DO get about three or four months of wear and these are STILL the best I have found for fit, support and non-skid and tried many. IF ONLY they didn't FLATTEN OUT SO FAST! _______________________________________ I got the 8.5-9 as I am an 8.5 in shoes. Sometimes in a scuff like this, I could take an 8. PROS: SNUG FIT - BUT DOES STRETCH after wearing a few days. I do NOT have a WIDE fit, but when I push my (bare foot) WAY into the front of the scuff, it's a good fit. I LOVE they don't SLIP off your foot like many scuffs do. OH, while the sides fit snugly, there is quite a bit of room at the top of the slipper, which doesn't bother me at all. But for those whose feet may swell, this may be a good thing to have a bit more space at the top. STYLE and COLOR - really like the style, a simple sturdy scuff. I love gray. I wear gray sweats a lot in winter and it's hard to find a nice gray scuff and I love the style. PRICE: Well worth the about $25 price, but even better getting them on sale! Just snagged a pair here for about $15 SOLE - it feels FIRM, YET FLEXIBLE. WHICH IS DIFFICULT to find. If it loses it's cushiony firmness, I will update. INDOOR/OUTDOOR - I like how the rubbery sole comes up a bit on the sides as I want these to just be able to take my dog in the yard, get the mail, take trash out. Not like I am going to run all over town in these (although you probably could). If it is a bit damp out, these should still be fine. CONS: OK at an 8.5, the 8.5-9 BARELY is long enough and I have to REALLY jam my foot in toward the front. BUT the next size up would have been TOO BIG. My suggestion is if you take a 9, DEFINITELY got up a size. If you take an 8.5, you might well prefer the 8.5-9. I DID get the right size for me. . REALLY, OVERALL, I would DEFINITELY have gotten these again, in fact, plan to get another pair. . I like how they fit, could be a SMIDGE longer, but they don't FLOP, are comfortable, firm sole without being inflexible (I got these to take my small dog up and down stairs to go out in the front yard). With sole coming up a bit on sides, should be good for indoor/outdoor most of the year.